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can you gather what is talked about regarding the fiscal cliff? >> for what mary was saying, it really seemed like revenue was going to be a part of it. they are trying to stick from to the $250,000 threshold of the tax cuts. that is different from what happened in the 2010 lame-duck, when president obama compromised. it seems the approach is different this time. they're not going to cave on revenue. the republicans will really have to make some concessions on revenue in order for democrats to come to the table with any entitlement cuts at all. >> i thought she was very good at sticking to that talking point of prevent -- revenue and remaining firm. at the same time, i thought it was interesting that she never said the president assured us that ultimately he will not make these changes in entitlements. we talked about the cpi concept that was in the talks last year which cut social security benefits. we do not know ultimately what the president will do. he does not report to us. my sense is that they're kind of the bracing themselves for something
can you gather what is talked about regarding the fiscal cliff? >> for what mary was saying, it really seemed like revenue was going to be a part of it. they are trying to stick from to the $250,000 threshold of the tax cuts. that is different from what happened in the 2010 lame-duck, when president obama compromised. it seems the approach is different this time. they're not going to cave on revenue. the republicans will really have to make some concessions on revenue in order for...
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." ♪ ♪ >> dana: congress 35 days to reach a deal and prevent the economy going over the fiscal cliff. no mystery what the issues areu. the democrats know, republicans know and so does president obama. entitlements are pushing the country toward financial ruin. here is what the president said in 2010. >> the major driver of the long-term liabilities is medicare, medicaid and healthcare spending. nothing comes close. social security we could probably fix the same way tip o'neil and ronald reagan sat down together and we could figure something out. that is manageable. medicare and medicaid, massive problems down the road. that's where, that is what our children have to worry about. >> dana: here we are, two years later and still no plan. on the left in congress refusing to deal with that simple reality. vermont senator bernie sanders caucuses with the democrats. take a listen. >> i get nervous when i hear the president and others continue to talk about quote/unquote, entitlement reform. which is just another cut for medicaid and medicare and social security. >> eric: brian, start with yo
." ♪ ♪ >> dana: congress 35 days to reach a deal and prevent the economy going over the fiscal cliff. no mystery what the issues areu. the democrats know, republicans know and so does president obama. entitlements are pushing the country toward financial ruin. here is what the president said in 2010. >> the major driver of the long-term liabilities is medicare, medicaid and healthcare spending. nothing comes close. social security we could probably fix the same way tip...
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congressional leaders are hoping to hammer out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is clear that the lawmakers are strug struggling to find a common ground. but some are saying there is a compromise. >> the stock market rallied amidst the talk of a possible deal being made. but independent senator joe lieberman is saying there is no done deal. he says, if congress does nothing, which they have gotten pretty good at, we will go over the fiscal cliff. the republicans have conceded that the government needs to find new ways to take in more money and now the fight is centered on where to get it from. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates. but i believe we can change loopholes. >> i want entitlement reforms. democracies promise to cut spending. we never cut spending. i am looking for revenue for entitlement reform. >> reporter: senator graham says age adjustment and means testing for medicare and social security is a reasonable thing. but illinois democratic senator dick durbin doesn't want to touch social security. he thinks the new revenue should come
congressional leaders are hoping to hammer out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is clear that the lawmakers are strug struggling to find a common ground. but some are saying there is a compromise. >> the stock market rallied amidst the talk of a possible deal being made. but independent senator joe lieberman is saying there is no done deal. he says, if congress does nothing, which they have gotten pretty good at, we will go over the fiscal cliff. the republicans have conceded that the...
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but keep in mind, the wall street and main street had a strong start to the season, the fiscal cliff is closer as christmas draws near and buyers and businesses may get more worried holding on to their wallets in the shadow of that cliff, harris, back to you. >> brenda, thank you. brand new video after pretty nasty mall brawl from black friday. this was the scene shortly after midnight as shopping mall here sacramento, california, you've got to be kidding me. fists flying, here is why. apparently it was over women's underwear and an employee at the victoria's secret where the fighting began says it's the worse they've seen. >> and for like six years now and i've never seen a black friday in bad and some people got trampled out and on top of the bars and they had to come off the table. >> that must have been one heck of a sale. the store was cleared out and the man kept rolling despite the black eyes that were given on black friday and he says it doesn't surprise him. >> the wrong place at the right time. >> does your opinion of black friday change after all of this. >> not so much. i
but keep in mind, the wall street and main street had a strong start to the season, the fiscal cliff is closer as christmas draws near and buyers and businesses may get more worried holding on to their wallets in the shadow of that cliff, harris, back to you. >> brenda, thank you. brand new video after pretty nasty mall brawl from black friday. this was the scene shortly after midnight as shopping mall here sacramento, california, you've got to be kidding me. fists flying, here is why....
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. >>> plus, fiscal cliff diving. the countdown to the new year is counting down to economic disaster. what will it take to reach a compromise and pull the country back from the edge before january 1st. >>> the holiday season kicking into gear. we'll take you all around the country. meantime, relative calm between israel and gaza following the cease fire did not last very long. today a clash at the poirder left one palestinian dead and 15 wounded. as usual, we are hearing two different versions of this cease fire version. we have two reporters there. aman, i'll begin with you. what are they saying about the glash at the gaza border today? >> they're saying that the palestinians, 300 of them approached the israel/gaza border on the palestinian side of it. they went there to access their farm land. that area is considered mostly essentially farm land for those families. a lot of people earn their livelihoods from there. they were going there to protest and demand that they have the right to go as far up to the border as
. >>> plus, fiscal cliff diving. the countdown to the new year is counting down to economic disaster. what will it take to reach a compromise and pull the country back from the edge before january 1st. >>> the holiday season kicking into gear. we'll take you all around the country. meantime, relative calm between israel and gaza following the cease fire did not last very long. today a clash at the poirder left one palestinian dead and 15 wounded. as usual, we are hearing two...
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on this monday are this signs of a compromise as we head for the fiscal cliff? senator lindsay graham, one of the latest high-profile republicans that says he will break the longstanding pledge regarding taxes and says he will do it for the country, but only if democrats are willing to make reforms on entitledment programs, medicare and medicaid and social security. that is big if. good morning, hope your turkey was great. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you've got this. congressman peter king and now senator bob corker say they will ignore the decades old pledge that was signed by 241 house members and senators. he says he believes it is a huge game-changer. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. we're this far in debt. we don't generate enough revenue. capping deductions will help generate revenue. raising tack rates will hurt job creation. bill: this is the heart of the matter. stuart varney, host of "varney & company". mo
on this monday are this signs of a compromise as we head for the fiscal cliff? senator lindsay graham, one of the latest high-profile republicans that says he will break the longstanding pledge regarding taxes and says he will do it for the country, but only if democrats are willing to make reforms on entitledment programs, medicare and medicaid and social security. that is big if. good morning, hope your turkey was great. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you've got this....
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we look at the fiscal cliff or as steve calls it the fiscal slope or the fiscal fiesta and of course the fiscal follies. we'll install our own special graphic later this week. it's our new style of play and our next guest might want to be a pair here as he writes about it every day until the situation is resolved. sounds riveting. in the guest spot today is dan gross, the columnist and global business editor for "newsweek" daily beast who says in his latest piece republicans still haven't recognized the new reality. dan, you may be right. i don't know. i guess we'll see. if republicans do agree to raise taxes, do you think that democrats will agree to any health care entitlement reform? which is the harder sell? >> no, i don't think so. that's why i'm so pessimistic or actually so optimistic about going over this fiscal cliff. usually when i threaten to write about something every day until it is resolved, it gets resolved quickly. we'll see in this case. >> that's power. >> the election kind of ratified the stance. which is the bush tax cuts should expire for those making over a cer
we look at the fiscal cliff or as steve calls it the fiscal slope or the fiscal fiesta and of course the fiscal follies. we'll install our own special graphic later this week. it's our new style of play and our next guest might want to be a pair here as he writes about it every day until the situation is resolved. sounds riveting. in the guest spot today is dan gross, the columnist and global business editor for "newsweek" daily beast who says in his latest piece republicans still...
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do you believe a deal can and will be reached before this fiscal cliff? >> i do believe a deal can be reached, and the basisser that agreemenbase basis of that agreement has to be revenues and cuts. we've done a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the control act. the president has additional cuts. he's got more healthcare cuts than simpson-bowles proposed. he doesn't do it by transferring -- martha: that deal did not go through. do you expect the president will sit down with leadership this week to discuss this and take a leadership role in this fight? >> the president is taking a leadership role in this fight. i think people need to sit down as they have looked for ways to find progress. as you know the president already had the congressional leaders to the white house a little while back. people are pursuing different ideas right now to try to make -- to try and prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff, and the president has laid out a very clear map, road map for how we do that. martha: all right we walked right up to it in the grand bargain and th
do you believe a deal can and will be reached before this fiscal cliff? >> i do believe a deal can be reached, and the basisser that agreemenbase basis of that agreement has to be revenues and cuts. we've done a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the control act. the president has additional cuts. he's got more healthcare cuts than simpson-bowles proposed. he doesn't do it by transferring -- martha: that deal did not go through. do you expect the president will sit down with leadership...
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pink unicorns, part of the fiscal cliff discussions now. let me bring in cnn contributor anna navarro who claims she has never seen me during the daylight. great to see you during the daylight, anna. >> how are you, john? >> good, i'm doing well, thank you is this over tour, these statements from the people like saxby chambliss, lindsey graham, is this what people are hoping to see in terms of reaching a deal? >> i think it's an important moment. i think what people are saying is, this is not about pledges. let's not allow for the tail to wag the dog. this is not about a pledge. this is about finding a solution. let's not be boxed in. let's have the ability to be creative, think outside the box. and come up with a solution that works for america. and i think they're getting sick of being held to pledge here, pledge there. you know, it's almost like read my lips. no new pledges. >> let me just read the pledge, so people know what we're talking about here. it says, number one, oppose all efforts to increase the marginal tax rates for individu
pink unicorns, part of the fiscal cliff discussions now. let me bring in cnn contributor anna navarro who claims she has never seen me during the daylight. great to see you during the daylight, anna. >> how are you, john? >> good, i'm doing well, thank you is this over tour, these statements from the people like saxby chambliss, lindsey graham, is this what people are hoping to see in terms of reaching a deal? >> i think it's an important moment. i think what people are saying...
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we're talking about the fiscal cliff. one of the urgent matters this lame duck congress needs to address before the end of the year and even though the tax increases are going to take effect in 36 days, there's still only talk of a compromise, so can congress actually walk the walk or are we going to go off this cliff? up next, mike lee of utah. really appreciate you taking the time. you wrote an op-ed in the washington times and said quote, delaying significant fiscal restraint will send the wrong signal and may serve as taping point for our economy. so you're fear is that interest rates could surge. to be father, we've had this disastrous situation for years and interest rates have kept falling in spite of all worries that there would be a disaster. >> that's right. that's one of the things that distinguishes the fiscal cliff, which we're coming up against right now. from what i described yesterday says the fiscal avalanche. we can see when the fiscal cliff is about to hit. the avalanche occurs when people stop buying u
we're talking about the fiscal cliff. one of the urgent matters this lame duck congress needs to address before the end of the year and even though the tax increases are going to take effect in 36 days, there's still only talk of a compromise, so can congress actually walk the walk or are we going to go off this cliff? up next, mike lee of utah. really appreciate you taking the time. you wrote an op-ed in the washington times and said quote, delaying significant fiscal restraint will send the...
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megyn: fox news alert new fallout from the fiscal cliff talks. the white house facing tough questions about what's really on the table when it comes to a big deal with republicans. i'm megyn kelly. we detailed the report last hour from an influential political blogger how some union reps and progressive groups held a private meeting with white house senior officials yesterday. these groups were told not to worry about entitlement reforms or big budget cuts as part of this deal. ed henry asked the white house, are federal spending cuts part of this package or not? >> when asked about pressuring democrats you said he vowed to do that in the future. >> he has done it in the past and he will do it in the future. he committed every time he talks about this to a balanced approach that includes -- revenues, spending cuts and savings through entitlement reforms. megyn: ed henry joins us now fresh from the exchange with mr. carney. what happened there? >> reporter: it's a big story that's developing. all along there has been an assumption on both sides th
megyn: fox news alert new fallout from the fiscal cliff talks. the white house facing tough questions about what's really on the table when it comes to a big deal with republicans. i'm megyn kelly. we detailed the report last hour from an influential political blogger how some union reps and progressive groups held a private meeting with white house senior officials yesterday. these groups were told not to worry about entitlement reforms or big budget cuts as part of this deal. ed henry asked...
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talking about the fiscal cliff. everyone comes back to work . wonder if they will get to work and cut the deals. republicans made it clear they are willing to budge when it comes to the 20 year pledge not to raise taxes that glover norquist had everyone sign before they took office. >> steve: grover norquist has hundreds of republicans to do that. clearly with the fiscal cliff comment and automatic spending cuts and taxes go up on everybody. something has to be done. the feeling is that it will happen two now. republicans have beenadament and said we can't raise taxes on anybody. and glover norquist said as long as you don't raise tax rates that is okay. and lindsay graham on that. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong to cap and buy down debt. what do you do with the money and i will violate the pledge for the good of the country only if the democrats do entitlement reform. >> gretchen: i think the pledge thing is good and bad. if you are a republican and believe that raising taxes is the wrong they think that and fine
talking about the fiscal cliff. everyone comes back to work . wonder if they will get to work and cut the deals. republicans made it clear they are willing to budge when it comes to the 20 year pledge not to raise taxes that glover norquist had everyone sign before they took office. >> steve: grover norquist has hundreds of republicans to do that. clearly with the fiscal cliff comment and automatic spending cuts and taxes go up on everybody. something has to be done. the feeling is that...
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the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the
the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being...
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tonight, lawmakers working to find common ground on the fiscal cliff before it's too late. plus, holiday shoppers looking for deals, pushing this cyber monday sales through the virtual roof. it's shaping up to be a possible record-breaker. shoppers spending more money today than ever before. a lot of them are not paying sales tax. now a move to close the loopholes that are costing states millions. plus at least when people shop online this doesn't happen. [oh] >> shepard: tonight, the brawl at the mall. a jury cleared casey anthony of murdering her little girl. >> we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty. >> shepard: now some potentially explosive evidence about a computer search somebody did on the day little caylee disappeared. and this was no ordinary parade can a gety. >> snn colon and then a number. >> shepard: shredded police documents apparently reigning down on the thanksgiving day crowd. >> i didn't know what to make of all of this information. >> tonight, investigation and police respond. but first from fox this monday night, some republicans are now saying the
tonight, lawmakers working to find common ground on the fiscal cliff before it's too late. plus, holiday shoppers looking for deals, pushing this cyber monday sales through the virtual roof. it's shaping up to be a possible record-breaker. shoppers spending more money today than ever before. a lot of them are not paying sales tax. now a move to close the loopholes that are costing states millions. plus at least when people shop online this doesn't happen. [oh] >> shepard: tonight, the...
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walmart. ♪ >>> holiday cheer and fiscal cliff fears. the white house releases a new report on christmas shopping and budget negotiations. it's monday, november 26th, and this is "now." alex wagner will be back tomorrow. joining me today from politico, ben white, assistant managing editor of "time" magazine, ronna, jody can tor of "the new york times" and the good professor himself, michael eric dyson. after a record-setting holiday weekend, consumers are expected to spend a lot of cash on what retailers call cyber monday. americans will spend $1.5 billion online today, a 20% bump from lastea
walmart. ♪ >>> holiday cheer and fiscal cliff fears. the white house releases a new report on christmas shopping and budget negotiations. it's monday, november 26th, and this is "now." alex wagner will be back tomorrow. joining me today from politico, ben white, assistant managing editor of "time" magazine, ronna, jody can tor of "the new york times" and the good professor himself, michael eric dyson. after a record-setting holiday weekend, consumers are...
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let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind john boehner's plan with this clip from the town. >> i need your help. i can't tell you what it is. you can never ask me about it later. we are going to hurt some people. >> whose car are we going to take? >> if you haven't seen the movie, two characters go to beat up a guy. mccarthy showed a clip where a thief emphasized not asking questions in a situation where people were going to get hurt. mccarthy also organized the republican screening of mo
let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's...
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weekend, not much public evidence of any real progress on a deal the avoid the fiscal cliff. folks here in washington are wondering if this week will prove a turning point for republicans and democrats. members of congress expressed optimism sunday about the prospects for reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts next year that could do serious damage to the economy. they also sounded warnings. >> we can and must get an agreement. otherwise i think first of all the markets are going to start reacting. >> it's not a done deal and not a certainty. if congress does nothing, which congress has gotten pretty good at doing these days, we'll go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: staffers have been working behind the scenes to find common ground to prevent across-the-board cuts lawmakers say should concern everyone. >> i think you should be worried if you have a fence job we all ought to be worried whether we are dependent upon other aspects of the federal budget, whether we're worried about the regulation of our food safety, whether we'r
weekend, not much public evidence of any real progress on a deal the avoid the fiscal cliff. folks here in washington are wondering if this week will prove a turning point for republicans and democrats. members of congress expressed optimism sunday about the prospects for reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts next year that could do serious damage to the economy. they also sounded warnings. >> we can and must get an agreement. otherwise i...
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economy heading for a plunge over the fiscal cliff? with us now, associate editor and columnist for "the hill", a.b. stoddard. so what are the folks that you cover there on capitol hill, what are they saying about the prospects here? >> well, in the last 10 days it starts to sound more and more like democrats don't really have a problem with going over the slope or the cliff. they won't really admit that but it seems that they're not working so hard to stop it. you see the white house trying to tell americans that there is going to be such a steep tax increase on the middle class that it could affect consumer spending at the holidays. that is 20% of total retail consumer demand for the year. that would have a bad effect on the economy. republicans have already agreed to increase taxes on the wealthy. when you heard senator gram and others say they're willing to cap deductions and close loopholes. they're willing to find new revenues we know taxes on the wealthy are going up. what we're talking about is an increase in rates. republicans
economy heading for a plunge over the fiscal cliff? with us now, associate editor and columnist for "the hill", a.b. stoddard. so what are the folks that you cover there on capitol hill, what are they saying about the prospects here? >> well, in the last 10 days it starts to sound more and more like democrats don't really have a problem with going over the slope or the cliff. they won't really admit that but it seems that they're not working so hard to stop it. you see the white...
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let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind
let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even...
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there wasn't any talk about the fiscal cliff. we'll see what happens this week because these negotiations continue. but those shopping numbers have given people a lot of reason to think maybe there's some good news out there. we see the numbers coming in on this today, cyber monday,s biggest online shopping day. $1.5 billion in sales. chuck, i will admit, on amazon this morning, i got shut out by the deals i wanted to get. hey, it's worth a try. >> i guess you have to right that "r" button, refresh. thank you, becky. >> thank you, chuck. >>> one of the tasks of political strength, how do you fare in unfriendly it territory? in today's deep dive we're taking a look at the democratic senators holding seats in some of the reddest presidential spots on the map. take a look at this. in the new congress a dozen democrats will hold seats in states that voted for mitt romney. one in alaska, ed north dakota, south dakota, missouri, arkansas, louisiana, indiana and north carolina. democrats hold both senate seats in west virginia and monta
there wasn't any talk about the fiscal cliff. we'll see what happens this week because these negotiations continue. but those shopping numbers have given people a lot of reason to think maybe there's some good news out there. we see the numbers coming in on this today, cyber monday,s biggest online shopping day. $1.5 billion in sales. chuck, i will admit, on amazon this morning, i got shut out by the deals i wanted to get. hey, it's worth a try. >> i guess you have to right that...
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very low ahead of the fiscal cliff. and even though as you mentioned sentiment is that it's very unlikely that we will fall off the cliff, the market as i said, likes to be optimistic. they like to play the bull. and if we do end up falling off the cliff, it doesn't just affect defense spending. corporate ceos across the board are simply not spending money. they're not expanding. you're seeing capital expersondy turs. we could fall into a recession if, in fact, we fall off a cliff. most people don't think we will. we're really seeing no true signs of congress beyond a headline here, a headline there. >> as we've seen in this market time and began, what goes down always goes back up when it comes to wall street. even if we do see big drops leading up to a deal. >> absolutely. just today we spoke with a chief strategist this morning on bloomberg who said the stocks look cheap here. you should get ahead of the fiscal cliff, which we're not going to fall off and buy. this is a buying opportunity. but it's a buying opportuni
very low ahead of the fiscal cliff. and even though as you mentioned sentiment is that it's very unlikely that we will fall off the cliff, the market as i said, likes to be optimistic. they like to play the bull. and if we do end up falling off the cliff, it doesn't just affect defense spending. corporate ceos across the board are simply not spending money. they're not expanding. you're seeing capital expersondy turs. we could fall into a recession if, in fact, we fall off a cliff. most people...
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so goes the story that is the fiscal cliff. the president is stepping up his outside game with events this week to 0 build public support. some call it posturing for his preferred combination of tax ineeses and spending cuts. a contrast from how the white house conducted itself during the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. ultimately this fight comes down to another number, 218. the number of house votes needed for a deal. and it's not clear that his efforts will persuade 100 to 120 house republicans who are needed at a minimum for boehner to get a deal done to get to the 218 overall. remember these republicans believe just as fervently as the white house does that they have their version of public opinion on their side. why can do we think this? when it comes to their own voter, both sides are right. the president won re-election fairly handily, but so did republican incumbents in the house. these are some stunning statistics that gerrymandering has created. 93% of the 205 house republicans who ran for re-election won. 88% of them wo
so goes the story that is the fiscal cliff. the president is stepping up his outside game with events this week to 0 build public support. some call it posturing for his preferred combination of tax ineeses and spending cuts. a contrast from how the white house conducted itself during the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. ultimately this fight comes down to another number, 218. the number of house votes needed for a deal. and it's not clear that his efforts will persuade 100 to 120 house republicans...
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this country is about over the fiscal cliff and someone has to lead it. the person they get elected leaders the president. i'm sorry, you either lead or you fail. >> there hasn't been a ton of willingness to compromise with president obama. that is in part because they believe that they have a mandate to hold firm. they promise that they are not going to raise tax rates and then they are going to keep that promise. so how much could leadership on the president's part change those hearts and minds? >> i think very easily. the bottom line, the president said, rather than the full 3%,, we will cappadocians and we will meet you halfway and we will start on entitlement reform. it is easy to do. the framework is there. but what is missing is leadership and the willingness to compromise. something that both guides, president and the republican leaders have to do with. megyn: i wonder if ron gets any kind of payment for this. the spokesperson for the cause. you know, if this works, whether he gets any kind of kickback. thank you guys so much you think you. >> tha
this country is about over the fiscal cliff and someone has to lead it. the person they get elected leaders the president. i'm sorry, you either lead or you fail. >> there hasn't been a ton of willingness to compromise with president obama. that is in part because they believe that they have a mandate to hold firm. they promise that they are not going to raise tax rates and then they are going to keep that promise. so how much could leadership on the president's part change those hearts...
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jon: as the fiscal cliff looms some republicans say they will break their longstanding pledge not to raise taxes. a fair and balanced debate on that minutes ahead. >>> a mall brawl breaks out on black friday, one of the busiest shopping days of the year. you won't believe what started this one. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand medicare and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networ
jon: as the fiscal cliff looms some republicans say they will break their longstanding pledge not to raise taxes. a fair and balanced debate on that minutes ahead. >>> a mall brawl breaks out on black friday, one of the busiest shopping days of the year. you won't believe what started this one. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know,...
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. >>> and here at home it's time to work on the fiscal cliff. can both sides strike a bargain before everyone's tacks go up. we'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to washington. >>> hello, again. you just saw one small step for bipartisanship, is there more to come in washington? congress is back to work this week. top priority, a deal to block those automatic spending cuts and tax increases now set for january 1st, and some smart money is starting to bet that the president and congress will find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. stocks up this week in anticipation of a deal with the dow clocking five straight of g
. >>> and here at home it's time to work on the fiscal cliff. can both sides strike a bargain before everyone's tacks go up. we'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo,...
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patti ann: a major development in congress' fight to avoid a fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner says the health care law has to be on the negotiating table if we hope to avoid that cliff. begin. tomato, obviously. haha. there's more than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp.there's more than that though, it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8. then you may be looking for help in choosing the right plan for your needs. so don't wait. call now. whatever your health coverage needs, unitedhealthcare can help you find the right plan. are you looking for something nice and easy? a medicare advantage plan can give you doctor, hospital and prescription drug coverage all in one plan... for nothing more than what you already pay for part b. you'll also have the flexibility to change doctors from a network of providers dedicated to helping you stay healthy. call now to learn more. unitedhealthcare has the in
patti ann: a major development in congress' fight to avoid a fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner says the health care law has to be on the negotiating table if we hope to avoid that cliff. begin. tomato, obviously. haha. there's more than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp.there's more than that though, it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've...
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i believe that we should have been negotiations on the fiscal cliff. of course, that's two things. $500 billion tax increase of the 2001-2003 tax cuts lapse in, and the sequestration of spending restraint. sequestration is a good thing. you can massage it into devoted to saving $100 billion a year reducing the -- >> it's not a common republican 20 because of me a lot of defense cuts spent ahead of the of the conservative caucus, 60%, most conservative guys in the house jim jordan said the own thing worse than this request would be not to have savings. and you saw mitch mcconnell say we are not raising taxes to in the sequestered. so that people have drawn a line in the sand against the idea that we will spend all that -- >> let's try -- >> quickly from -- >> quickly from has to be a c-span. why? because only then would the president have to say, trying to consider what spending cuts what quick cbs hasn't done that. nbc hasn't done the. "washington post" hasn't in the. he is walking around campaigning. point of fact if you look at the savings in his bud
i believe that we should have been negotiations on the fiscal cliff. of course, that's two things. $500 billion tax increase of the 2001-2003 tax cuts lapse in, and the sequestration of spending restraint. sequestration is a good thing. you can massage it into devoted to saving $100 billion a year reducing the -- >> it's not a common republican 20 because of me a lot of defense cuts spent ahead of the of the conservative caucus, 60%, most conservative guys in the house jim jordan said the...
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. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the
. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff...
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the fiscal cliff is a bluff. now, defaulting on the debt, that's something real. you could spark some global financial crisis. but the fiscal cliff, people are going to wake up january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and nothing substantial will have changed. because these are cuts that are phased in, it'll take a long time for the withholding to start hitting people's paychecks, and even after withholding starts hitting people's paychecks, you're not going to see an immediate change in spending that would have some type of immediate and cataclysmic effect on the economy. what does immediately change is december you have the bush tax rates in effect. january, you have the clinton tax rates in effect. democrats are better off negotiating from the clinton rates and then they're saying, okay, look, here are the rates, we're going to bring this down, we're going to bring this down. we're going to leave these how they are. how would you like to vote for this? are you going to oppose this? and people didn't really vote for compromise necessarily this election. they overwhelmingly e
the fiscal cliff is a bluff. now, defaulting on the debt, that's something real. you could spark some global financial crisis. but the fiscal cliff, people are going to wake up january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and nothing substantial will have changed. because these are cuts that are phased in, it'll take a long time for the withholding to start hitting people's paychecks, and even after withholding starts hitting people's paychecks, you're not going to see an immediate change in spending that would...
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host: if you go to our website c-span.org/fiscal those plays cliff -- c-host:span.org/fiscal cldff. next it will have a roundtable discussion on the fiscal of. but first, in news update. >> patrick donahoe in remarks earlier today on cbs this morning said the agency must be allowed to use prepayments on the retirement health-care fun and allow general mail delivery on saturday. he said he thinks most people do not realize that in his words, we are 100% self-sufficient. we pay our own way. but the postal agency is losing $16 billion this year. the epa is set -- is temporarily suspending bp from new contracts with the u.s. government. two weeks ago, bp agreed to plead guilty involving -- in its involvement in the death of a love and oil workers in the oil spill in the gulf in 2010. bp also agreed to lying to congress over how much oil was spilled. defense secretary leon panetta, along with the vice president's wife, dr. khiel biden, -- jill biden, held a dedication at the vietnam memorial here in washington. it is expanding the planned scope of the center to include more recent servic
host: if you go to our website c-span.org/fiscal those plays cliff -- c-host:span.org/fiscal cldff. next it will have a roundtable discussion on the fiscal of. but first, in news update. >> patrick donahoe in remarks earlier today on cbs this morning said the agency must be allowed to use prepayments on the retirement health-care fun and allow general mail delivery on saturday. he said he thinks most people do not realize that in his words, we are 100% self-sufficient. we pay our own way....
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all of this is occurring in the context of the fiscal cliff negotiations and what lindsey graham was suggesting was that if you close some of the loopholes and deductions and revenue goes up, that's not raising taxes apparently grover norquist sees it differently but interestingly enough, there is a push then from the left as well and there are unions that have taken out ads to pressure democratic senators not to compromise. >> how do we move our country forward and reduce the deficit? by creating jobs and growing our economy. not by cutting programs that families rely on most. we need senators udall to continue to stand up for us. >> jennifer: do you think that democrats are going to feel as pressured by the unions as republicans feel pressured by grover norquist? >> organized labor is the best organized, most effective strongest arm on the left in this country. they are a great ally for the democratic party and so, of course the democrats will feel pressure from labor. they are also going to feel pressure from -- >> jennifer: are they going to compromise? >> we'll find out. the dem
all of this is occurring in the context of the fiscal cliff negotiations and what lindsey graham was suggesting was that if you close some of the loopholes and deductions and revenue goes up, that's not raising taxes apparently grover norquist sees it differently but interestingly enough, there is a push then from the left as well and there are unions that have taken out ads to pressure democratic senators not to compromise. >> how do we move our country forward and reduce the deficit? by...
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we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but first over to andrew. >>> finance ministers are trying to unfreeze the second bailout package for greece, but first they must agree on how to cut massive debt to a more sustainable level. we'll head to london for details on that. and playing down a deal talk, tom joyce saying his country's currently if talks with at least two firms on a possible sale of its largest business unit. but would only pursue a deal if it created value to shareholders and clients. and mexico's anti-corruption body says it has found no irregularities in its probe of permits given to walmart. two
we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but...
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not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. not done in the closing days here, of a lame duck session. let's look at this thoughtfully and make sure at the end of the day medicare is going to survive and be stronger. but i think there is plenty of ground here for us to come together as democrats and republicans, the congress and the president, and avoid the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> okay, so what entitlements then? what would you put on the table? right now it's been the narrative is kind of republicans will put taxes on the table, democrats will put entitlements on the table. and i talked to a couple people that say everything's on the table then they start ticking off all the things that are not on the table, excuse me, so what's on your table that's an entitlement that you'd be willing to negotiate before we fall off the cliff? >> of course. and the social security is a separate thing. it does not add a penny to the debt. we should deal with this long-term survival and solvency, and we can do that in a separate set
not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. not done in the closing days here, of a lame duck session. let's look at this thoughtfully and make sure at the end of the day medicare is going to survive and be stronger. but i think there is plenty of ground here for us to come together as democrats and republicans, the congress and the president, and avoid the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> okay, so what entitlements then? what would you put on the table? right now it's been the narrative...
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cheryl: time for our fiscal cliff survival kit series. we will bring you the tools you need to prepare for the changes that could be ahead. joining us now, we have the philips, spectrum managing principal. and portfolio manager. i want to start with you because you are telling your clients to reduce stocks exposure. >> yes, as we work toward the end of the year the fiscal cliff what is congress and the president going to do? taxes are going up. you look at the spending problem, you let taxes go back to people making over $250,000 per year. much of its revenue, still leaving it short of closing the deficit by close to a trillion dollars. it is all about tax rates. cheryl: it is about tax rates, but you're telling your clients stay focused, stay balanced in your portfolio, don't make any big changes but you also said in the last four months while a toady is in the market and also the gdp will shrink no matter what happens in washington with the fiscal cliff. >> i don't think we will have gdp, not part of our assessment. we see a very signif
cheryl: time for our fiscal cliff survival kit series. we will bring you the tools you need to prepare for the changes that could be ahead. joining us now, we have the philips, spectrum managing principal. and portfolio manager. i want to start with you because you are telling your clients to reduce stocks exposure. >> yes, as we work toward the end of the year the fiscal cliff what is congress and the president going to do? taxes are going up. you look at the spending problem, you let...
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the fiscal cliff negotiations are set to take place this week. in washington today, we heard both sides staking out their positions. here's democratic senator carl levin on "meet the press." >> the key is whether the republicans will move away from the rigid position which has been the grover norquist pledge that they signed that they will not go away for additional revenues. >> the gop rejecting the decade-old pledge. here's what norquist said about cham bliss. >> the commitment that he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of georgia. >>> >> and new today, congressman peter king on the controversy. >> i agree with chambliss. if i were in congress in 1941, i would have signed al declaration of war against japan. i'm not going to declare war against japan today. t
the fiscal cliff negotiations are set to take place this week. in washington today, we heard both sides staking out their positions. here's democratic senator carl levin on "meet the press." >> the key is whether the republicans will move away from the rigid position which has been the grover norquist pledge that they signed that they will not go away for additional revenues. >> the gop rejecting the decade-old pledge. here's what norquist said about cham bliss. >>...
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more about the fiscal cliff. rebecca kaplan from "national journal" will be along a little bit later and brad woodhouse who has a shiny head looks just like stan collender -- >> hey hey! >> bill: brad woodhouse communications director for the dnc shaved his head as part of a bet. he will be in studio next hour. >> that's what happened to you stan. >> i lost a bet with god. i said you know, if you give me hair, i will wear it. he said no, not happening. >> bill: we'll see how brad looks. let's see if he looks as sharp as stan collender here. we'll be right back but first. >> this is the "full court press." >> other headlines making news, how about this headline. porn stores have this more together than one might think. a new study done by shippensburg university in texas. women's university find that female porn actors are more religious and have a higher self-esteem than other women. the study concluded these women do not fit the damaged goods hypothesis and have great social support and positive feelings but the
more about the fiscal cliff. rebecca kaplan from "national journal" will be along a little bit later and brad woodhouse who has a shiny head looks just like stan collender -- >> hey hey! >> bill: brad woodhouse communications director for the dnc shaved his head as part of a bet. he will be in studio next hour. >> that's what happened to you stan. >> i lost a bet with god. i said you know, if you give me hair, i will wear it. he said no, not happening. >>...
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cliff and call it the fiscal bluff. >> stephanie: i'm sorry. caught me. caught me. >> there's a road in the fiscal bluff. >> stephanie: you're on with steven. >> caller: howdy everybody. i remember you on wings too by the way. >> thanks. >> stephanie: well join the club. >> actually my favorite, i watch the reruns. my question is this, how can a guy named grover have so much power over these republicans? >> stephanie: yeah, that's what i mean, one republican said this was a pledge for a congress that was 20 years ago. why are people still pretending it or he is rely at this point? >> hello there! he does grover impressions too. >> i'm grover. >> stephanie: he's delightful. he just is. by the way one other magical degree of stephanie miller separation a couple of weeks ago, i got an email from amy she likes watching the beach she says. >> who doesn't? she does it beautifully. didn't the daily show do a section on grover norquist that he came up with this whole pledge idea when he was like in the seventh great. he literally did. >> stephanie: tha
cliff and call it the fiscal bluff. >> stephanie: i'm sorry. caught me. caught me. >> there's a road in the fiscal bluff. >> stephanie: you're on with steven. >> caller: howdy everybody. i remember you on wings too by the way. >> thanks. >> stephanie: well join the club. >> actually my favorite, i watch the reruns. my question is this, how can a guy named grover have so much power over these republicans? >> stephanie: yeah, that's what i mean, one...
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they've introduced a plan to put off the fiscal cliff deadline. according to senator alexander, the plan simply pushes the pause button on all elements of the fiscal cliff, extends everything for a year, and then gives us six months in which to reform entitlements and reform taxes and reduce the debt. are you kidding me?! push the pause button? we already pushed the pause button in 2011. these representatives were sent back to washington to get something done now. in fact, pushing the pause button could destroy america's credit rating and further harm the economy. mark zandi, chief economist at moody's analytics says, "if we can kick the can, at some point moody's is going to downgrade. you're going to create more instability in the financial markets." zandi said it would be better to do nothing than to create an extension. republicans and some centrist democrats are definitely not getting the message. when the president won re-election, he said his number one priority is to reach an economic deal by reaching across both sides of the aisle. >> i w
they've introduced a plan to put off the fiscal cliff deadline. according to senator alexander, the plan simply pushes the pause button on all elements of the fiscal cliff, extends everything for a year, and then gives us six months in which to reform entitlements and reform taxes and reduce the debt. are you kidding me?! push the pause button? we already pushed the pause button in 2011. these representatives were sent back to washington to get something done now. in fact, pushing the pause...
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that's how long we have to get this fiscal cliff situation. are democrats going to hold their spine and stand up to republicans on this? there's a lot of anxiety on the left about this. >> i think there is. while i think the president, if he could get it, would like to have a big deal before christmas. i think it's doubtful it will happen. i think the john boehner op-ed shows you why. boehner is still guarding his right flank. everything he does, he's still trying to give gimmes to the republican base. we can say all we want -- the republican operatives want to change the party. but the base of the party is still there. they still exist. the tea party base. not only are they still there, 87 are still in the lame duck congress. you see boehner regarding his speakership into december. i would say we get past december 31st, get to january 3rd, reorganize the congress and then they make a deal. >> let's hope that's right. thank you for joining us. have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too. >>> next, the presidential pardon. stay with us. >> now, i jo
that's how long we have to get this fiscal cliff situation. are democrats going to hold their spine and stand up to republicans on this? there's a lot of anxiety on the left about this. >> i think there is. while i think the president, if he could get it, would like to have a big deal before christmas. i think it's doubtful it will happen. i think the john boehner op-ed shows you why. boehner is still guarding his right flank. everything he does, he's still trying to give gimmes to the...
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they want the fiscal cliff. it does essentially what they wanted to do, which is to raise taxes and impose a bunch of reductions in military spending. we all know that raising taxes on the rich will not raise enough money to substitute for a dollar rates on middle-class. -- raise. no tax on the super rich would ever recover enough money to even begin averting the financial clip. no reduction in foreign aid -- it is just less than 1% of the federal budget -- can address the fiscal cliff. we need to begin talking exactly the opposite of the way the federal government has worked so far. simply by starting with a budget on what we expect the income-tax to be instead of starting with what we would like to spend. that is backwards. you have to start with what you expect your income to be. host: here is what charlotte says on facebook. she says the tax rates are not creating any jobs, so stop talking out of both sides of your mouth, republicans. you can join that conversation on facebook. is with us from texas. caller:
they want the fiscal cliff. it does essentially what they wanted to do, which is to raise taxes and impose a bunch of reductions in military spending. we all know that raising taxes on the rich will not raise enough money to substitute for a dollar rates on middle-class. -- raise. no tax on the super rich would ever recover enough money to even begin averting the financial clip. no reduction in foreign aid -- it is just less than 1% of the federal budget -- can address the fiscal cliff. we need...
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. >>> who do you trust more on the fiscal cliff? ben bernanke or rush limbaugh. rush thinks he holds some cards in the looming negotiations. can congress cut out the middlemen, the drama and make a deal? we will discuss next on "now." look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine. other side effects include dry
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effort on cliff the fiscal cliff, of course. putting pressure on congress, president will talk to small business owners. so here's what's going on. right. with this fiscal cliff looming the president has laid out -- very, very clear what he's talking about, what he wants to see. it is a $4 billion package of cuts to the deficit a combination of spending cuts and new revenue and about $2 trillion of that coming from getting rid of the bush tax cuts. at the same time while getting rid of the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of americans letting the tax cuts for 98% of americans continue because the middle class do need the help and the wealthiest people do not. so to get there of course, and by the way let's back up, right. the president put forth his plan on november 6th and mitt romney put forth his plan and the american people said no, we don't like that romney way of going which is to continue to coddle the rich. we agree with president obama. so now the negotiations are underway. about how to avoid going off the fiscal cliff. a
effort on cliff the fiscal cliff, of course. putting pressure on congress, president will talk to small business owners. so here's what's going on. right. with this fiscal cliff looming the president has laid out -- very, very clear what he's talking about, what he wants to see. it is a $4 billion package of cuts to the deficit a combination of spending cuts and new revenue and about $2 trillion of that coming from getting rid of the bush tax cuts. at the same time while getting rid of the tax...